May Allah help the muslims and destroy those who want to destroy islam and the muslim who work with enemy of islam to destroy islam

Ameen

Tanks again but you are missing the point I am ready to discus any thing unfortunately on your side it is blocked not to agree. If I don’t see any light at the end of our discussion what is the point of discussing? But I will leave you with a few question.
1-Can you explain to me what is the down side of Muslim praying in university? In deed were I went school I was praying and also my wife and sister are enrolled in university they don’t have any problem what so ever but they are not in Ethiopia
2-If student choose to leave the lectures for any reason what is the big deal?
3-what is human rights in your definition? You may check Universal Declaration of Human Rights http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

Having Muslim friend it doesn’t cure you from Islam phobia till you accept who they are ,what they wear and what they stand for!! Ask your ‘best friend” if it is possible to give-up prayer for any reason and he should back up his finding from the holy Book. (QURAN)
It will be marvels’ to define believing and practising. It is worthless to say I belong to this religion but not practicing. Check your bible about Sundays and good Friday
For your comment Re Protestant “ I don’t agree with the notion that there was favouritism during the time of derg though I agree that the Haileselassie period was clearly favourable towards the orthodox church, which I personally don’t agree.
May be you didn’t know… Derg is the one Confiscate there property through out Ethiopia and prisons many believers.
Finally I am not writing to convince you about Ethiopian Muslim it is just only information using technology.. I am not in this world to live up to your expectations and you are not to live up to mine. This is all about for betterment of Ethiopia and to stop tribalism and extremism in any way. Hopefully justice will prevail.
“The highest result of education is tolerance.” , ‘Optimism,’ 1903 H,K
“The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority “
RALPH W.Sockman

Nice meeting you and Have a good life

Let’s agree not to agree. But have few points to answer or mention to your latest posting.

1. I am a practical christian, and I don’t mind lectures are given on Sunday or Saturday. For that matter we used to arrange classes on Saturdays and Sundays while I was a student at University. One more, I know a town where regular classes are held on Saturday, and the break days are on Sunday and Monday. Here their arrangement is not based on religious days but on the suitability of the days with that of the local market days.

2. I don’t agree with the notion that there was favouritism during the time of derg though I agree that the Haileselassie period was clearly favourable towards the orthodox church, which I personally don’t agree.

3. I haven’t ever been under the situation of islam phobia! As I told you earlier, I grew up with muslim friend. For your info, my best friend since my childhood is a muslim.

Those are the points where I stand for. If you are willing to discuss, I would like to raise an important issue related to ‘Ethiopian muslim community and their affinity towrds their country’. This is a very important topic, which I couldn’t get where this community stands with regards to the aformentioned point. If you are willing to engage, let me know, and I will write you my points.

Stay safe

Dear Zmita tanks again for your courage and your opinions .To understand this core issue you may need to study the obligation of Muslims that may give you basic understanding. If you believe in any thing it shouldn’t be following your forefathers. Liberate your self from Islam phobia. Having say that I will try to explain with limited knowledge for the benefit of all Ethiopians.
. set up Regular Prayers: For such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times. ” Qur’an 4:103
Prayers are said at dawn, noon, mid-afternoon, sunset and nightfall, and thus determine the rhythm of the entire day. It means there is limited time for each prayer. For example THE FRIST PRAYER DAWN BIFORE SUNRISE THERE IS ONLY LIMITED TIME FOR THE PRAYER,AND THE OTHER PRAYER ALSO HAVE LIMITED TIME TO DO IT APROXMETLY ONE AND HLFE HOURE EXEPT THE LAST PRAYER HAS MORETHAN THAT
Although it is preferable to worship together in a mosque, a Muslim may pray almost anywhere, such as in fields, offices, factories and universities. Visitors to the Muslim world are struck by the centrality of prayers in daily life.
In fact each prayer it takes only average 5-minit and also the prayers scattered timely interval in 24hours.For this reason it shouldn’t be a problem to live the lecture to obey her/his lord! By the way how long it takes to go toilet? If you have to go you do not need permission. The difference b/n Muslim and non Muslim are a Slat you can’t deny there need. what would you say if the government decided to give lectures’ on Sunday or Good Friday? would you give up your religion to get worldly benefit? I am asking you if you are practical Christian?
My friend if you look around you it is reality of the world for example Addis Abeba Bole Airport have a prayer place for there travelers and transit passenger. Why need to accommodate this? If Ethiopian government care about there costumer why not for there tax payer Muslim citizen? To live the lecture and not to live should be left for individual that is there responsibility and there right .
Additionally if you ask any university in western society how they do it .It is only one answer Accommodation learn from one another. It is not only for religions but also personal life stile like lesbians/Gay and any beliefs must be given space that brings Tolerance
I believe I have answered your question regarding other religion “(One other point that you didn’t answer me is the rights of other religious groups. If you allow for the muslims, then it is clear that you have to allow for others too. So, where is it going to stop???)” If you deny… there is always uprising for instances during Durg and Hilesilasi it was impossible For Pentecostal to exist any were! because they were different from orthodox. But there straggle endurance and patience, steadfastness they over come there problem.
I have doubt for this !” Ethiopia is known for its safety” no comment

In conclusion lets make it easy for every religions based on there religions principles and we may opens prayer centers were it is necessary in some case we may share the center for every religions I do not min to build mosque or church in university or in a factory but a small room will solve the problem so that they can pray whiteout mocking. And no one should miss THE LECTURE FOR MORE THAN 5 MINIT. This is accommodation!!!
Muslims says in each prayer
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful (1)
Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, (2) The Beneficent, the Merciful. (3) Owner of the Day of Judgment, (4) Thee (alone) we worship; Thee (alone) we ask for help. (5) Show us the straight path, (6) The path of those whom Thou hast favoured. Not (the path) of those who earn Thine anger nor

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Thanks for your decent response though I don’t agree in some of the points you mentioned. To be specific, regarding the timing of Salat. You wrote that “…salat has to be done in a timely manner …. you can’t say I will do later…”. OK! let’s take this as you wrote! What do muslims when the salat time coincides with their lecture hour? Do they quit their class and go for a prayer? do they it there in class? You also mentioned that what if there is rain or any other difficulty. That is why I wrote that you have to make sacrifice, going through rain or darkness! Ethiopia is known for its safety, and I don’t think there is any problem if people in groups walk together in the dark (remember that we are talking about university students).

One other point that you didn’t answer me is the rights of other religious groups. If you allow for the muslims, then it is clear that you have to allow for others too. So, where is it going to stop???

Regarding the megaphones, I do agree with you, and that was also my point in my earlier message. When I say banning, I don’t mean the services and the azan, but the loud voice. The sound has to be confined within the compounds of churches and mosques.

Peace and tranquillity for all
Dear Zimita I congratulate you for your openness unfortunately you are missing the point from Muslim perspectives. Of Corse if there was one mosque near by it wouldn’t be a problem but if there is non than some how has to be accommodated this shouldn’t bother any body. Salaat is central part of Islam and the first act of warship it has to be done in timely manner. You can’t say I will do it letter for instant if there is heavy rain why they have to go to the mosque? While they could do it wherever they are. Imagine a woman has to travel in dark for prayer? Way? Believe me noting to do laziness or politics it is all accommodation and human rights. Recognize and adapt to the changing reality of Ethiopia. Tolerance and understanding proponents of the different positions on these issues need to refrain from the mentality of “my position is the only valid position” and avoid pointing fingers or questioning the faith and sincerity of others. You see half of my relatives belong to orthodox Christian in deed I know duty of believers in both religions it will be good for you to know ethics of disagreement and considering issues with an open and objective mind.
Finally your opinion regarding mega phones - amplifiers’ during church services and azan! yes it is disturbing others but banning is not a solution it will be marvellous if they limit there amplifiers in side their worshipping places including church bell exceptional in rulers aria were peoples are lived in scattered .In city like Addis mosque and church they should install more speakers in low volume in there perimeter that may not disturb others but it takes time to make one understood.

First I have to say that I am a member of the Ethiopian Orthodox church, who grew up with Muslim Ethiopians. I don’t want to go to the politics of religion but would like to say a few point regarding the directive the Minstry of Education is intending to implement. Personally, I do support it, not because it’s against Muslims (which I believe is not) but simply for the sake of harmony. Imagine this…. the muslims require a place to make salat, the orthodox may require a place to hold their sunday school, the protestants will require ‘ye tselot bet’ (don’t forget that there may be a few dozen of different protestant churches), I know that there are few catholics and Bahai’s in Ethiopia, hence, they have also a right to request their own share, etc. So… where is it going to stop? Because of this it is imperative to ban religious practices in campus!! This doesn’t mean that you are oppressed! Why I am saying that? If you are keen to this extent to your religion, then you have to saccrifice your time and energy to go to the nearest mosque to practice your religion. It is as simple as that! Allah doesn’t (I think) say that you have to do it in your campus.

I have even another suggestion if there is someone who is willing to hear. The government should ban the use of ‘mega phones - amplifiers’ during church services and azan! The sound has to be confined to the churches and mosques. It shouldn’t disturb the neighbours!

IT is funny your (nejashiexposed)
Muslims reaction regarding hijab or niqab you should back up your evidence before saying Haram or Hallal may Allah forgive you. Remember you are responsible for your action those news pepper are the voice of Muslim that in democratic Ethiopia they have the write to do so it is individual responsibility to act in law abiding manner . Brother think again ISLAM IS CONCERNED ABOUT REMOVING NEGATIVE EMOTIONS FROM PEOPLE IN ORDER TO BRING ABOUT HARMONY AND PEACE IN SOCIETY. Think again before this government we do not have any to express our voice. Think again to concur your fear of Wahabi by reading what is in it ABU HURAYRAH REPORTED THAT ALLAH MESSANGER SAYED “BEWERE OF SUSPICION, FOR VERILY SUSPICION IS THE MOST MISLEADING FROM CONVERSATION.”
Finally listen to your HEART and recommends better solutions for all Ethiopia if you can’t do that just be what ever
By the way what makes a DIFFRENSE FOR you weather they were hijab ,niqab or miniskirt ?