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How do you call it if not a “declaration for an all out war”? - UPDATED!

Posted on January 30th, 2009 in General, Politics, Religion by negashi

We all have been alarmed by recent provocative actions of Fanatic Orthodox Christians in Ethiopia. Some have already described it as a soft “coup d’etet”. But most has not been convinced that this has gone far to the extent of an “all-out war declaration”. It seems that with more material becoming available we are increasing confronted with the hard reality that indeed that is the case. Watch the materials below and tell me if we can take it otherwise.

Materials below are new additions and be sure that you listen both to the end:

 Part I
 Part II
The above audio’s are extracts from a CD that was in public circulation for some time now. I have no idea during which conference the lecture was delivered, nor the name of the hate mongerer. However, the material is alarming for all Ethiopians who believe in equality (religious or otherwise), co-existence and tolerance. More than the content of the speech which I believe has nothing substance but reveal the preacher’s frustration and hatred to Ethiopians and Ethiopia, the material proves that fundamentalist Orthodox Christians are not just individuals or groups of individuals who are operating on their own but are people who are fully supported by their Church, possibly from some politicians as well, to spread their venom. This is sad in that the institution that has been complicite to the suffering of Ethiopians along the century and thereby had to take the blame for whatever miscery our country and people still undergo, could not learn from its misdeeds even in the 21 century. That is ideed very sad and alarming at the same time.
Priest Barihun is demonstrating the ugly face of Fanatic Orthodox Christian - a declaration for an “all out war” on Ethiopian Muslims and Islam in general, from Arada Georgis Church in the Capital, Addis Ababa, on the day of Ethiopian Epiphany, Timket, 20 January 2009.

The recent up-surge of verbal and physical attacks on Muslims and call for open confrontation urges all peace-loving Ethiopians to revisit the circumstances that resulted in the killing of dozens of innocent Ethiopians and the loss of property in Jimma back in 2006. Can it be part of the overall plan to arrive at what we are seeing today in the streets and churches of Addis and other cities?

In the mean time, it is our obligation to praise the great majority of Ethiopian Orthodox Christians we are giving but deaf ears to the fanatics and continue with their determination not to be instruments for distruction and chaos. Fanaticism in any of its form, religious, political or otherwise, is to be faught against.

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  1. Jimmacorner said,

    on January 30th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    Asselam A. The TRUE BELIEVR OF ISLAM

    Oh very shoking!! I couldn’t believe this!!

    Shame up on the Orthodox Church for this Bulshit priest talk and the Government not to stop this barbaric act of Evil source of church lecture.
    Now I coudn’t reply for each words stated on the video, b/c these words are being below dog’s shit, baseless talk, blind hatred, bulshit, senseless, etc.

    Also the govenmet should stop as soon as possible unless this country will face a very disastress and choas condition and future.

  2. Jimmacorner said,

    on January 30th, 2009 at 9:06 am

    Asselam A. The TRUE BELIEVR OF ISLAM

    Oh very shoking!! I couldn’t believe this!!

    Shame up on the Orthodox Church for this Bulshit priest talk and the Government not to stop this barbaric act of Evil source of church lecture.
    Now I coudn’t reply for each words stated on the video, b/c these words are being below dog’s shit, baseless talk, blind hatred, bulshit, senseless, etc.

    However, the govenmet should stop as soon as possible unless this country will face a very disastress and choas condition and future.
    Also the governmnet should bring these criminals to justice, if really there is any democrcy and equality in ethiopia.

  3. Freedom said,

    on January 30th, 2009 at 9:32 am

    Assalamu AWW

    I watched the clips from to the end, and though I am aware of there are such fanatics this is the first time to see the evidence!

    The man is far from being religious, and he is very very rude who is obsessed with hatred. I am surprised that he talks about ‘loving enemies’ , but his nature tells that he doesn’t have the sense of love to show ‘freinds’ let alone enemies.

    This is ground breaking evidence, that Negashi OJ should be hailed.

    This man is simply hatred machine, and he is inciting violence against ALL MUSLIMS. Yes, and you may watch he is not only insulting our prophet and holy books he is accusing ALL Muslims and urging them to make all Muslims their enemies.

    He is using the common baseless myths widely spread among fellow Christians to draw their attention. He was repeating the word “sword’. It is unfortunate though, that while many like to remind us that the first muslims ever to come to Ethiopia were guests, they deny themselves when it comes its real implications. It is from these weak guests that Ethiopian Muslims learned about Islam and accepted .

    Exposing such fanatics is very important, at the same time it is important to expose about their lies. When, some one insults a whole religion using vulgar word that any decent person does avoid it shows how degraded the person is. When, some accuses and blames a whole nation and seek revenge against them..then this shows the person is extremists and he lost the logics

    Ethiopians Muslims also should try to engage Christians who understand the importance of interfaith. Many , are not aware of the simple fact that we respect Jesus (PBUH), as much as we do prophet Mohamed (PBUH). Muslims are not anti-Christ as Jews are, but one still wonders why this fanatics are after Muslims? Is the motive behind this is really religion? Or Politics? Or simple Hatred?

  4. Salam-le-hulu said,

    on January 31st, 2009 at 3:48 am

    I saw the video, and I found it terrible! shame for the Ethiopian orthodox “church”. This could serve as an ample evidence that the Church is becoming a TERRORIST
    TRAINING ORGANIZATION!!!
    How could a “clergymen” teach believers to hate Muslims and attack them if he is not a Terrorist! It is obvious that this campaign is funded and organized by MAHBERE-KIDUSAN, one of the ORTHODOX CHURCH TERRIORIST ORGANIZATIONS!. And the government and international community should interfere and to stop these terrorists so that the light of peace will prevail. It is clear that terriorist like Mahibere kidusan and their likes are trying to lit a civil war among civil Ethiopians so that they will get control of the power; which is impossible. And we say to them, Ethiopians know how to deal with their problems but will never give hand for CHRISTIAN TERRIORISTS!!!

    PEACE FOR ETHIOPIA

  5. Biro said,

    on January 31st, 2009 at 8:08 am

    Meles and his clique are the only responsible for this disastrious situation.
    This dogs can’t open their dirty mouth with out TPLF’s permission.
    It is the begining of their end.
    If they talk about us, that means they are afraid of some thing.
    When the Orthodox and muslims fight, Evangelists (Born again) and TPLF are doing their business.
    Long live Secular Ethiopia!!!

  6. Nesrun min-Allah said,

    on January 31st, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Oh!
    This shows how ignorant these people are and how rude they are.hey are trying all their best to provoke Ethiopian muslims for religious war.It’s cear that the preaching ws not outof th sites of the politicians.Even i could see polices around the building uring the preahing.I can see either the government is also happy to sart the religious onflict or the church is beyond the government’s control because of their base.If there was really justice in Ethiopia,all these records would have been god evidence for their transgression against our religon.But we should never be scared-Allah’l be wih us.I suggest brother Sadik to be very careful against the evils of these coward,fanatic,non-sense,& ignorant orthos.

  7. Peace lover said,

    on January 31st, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Don’t worry, all Ethiopian people woke up from the tactics of Meles’ regime.This is one of the tools the woyane uses to disintegrate the Ethiopian people just as used ethnic differences. I directly blame the government for its silence from this evil acts which I believe well informed these extremist activities in public.

  8. Concerned Citizen said,

    on January 31st, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Asselamualykum

    I hope this is an attitude and thinking of few mislead, backward, illusionary and hate mongering extremists amongst the Orthodox fellow citizen .How come the preacher dared to say that we let you live for more than a thousand year. Let me remind that none of the Ethiopian Muslim is an Arab or their decedents. We all are descendants of our ancestors who accepted the religion preached to them as does the ancestors of the Christians. Which one of us: The Oromo, Tigre, Amhara or Gurage Muslim come from Arab or other country? It is very dangerous mixing nationalism and religion. Ethiopia is a home for all of us: Muslims, Christians, Animists Traditionalist and none religious people! Claiming for self and denying the others is a path for the ruin of the country. What we are hearing is alarming and very serious and dangerous. Even tough I suspect those engaged in this act to be few ,for such dangerous and evil act few are enough! .Let us not forget how Hitler and his group were able to infect the German people by their devil agenda and lead the whole world to the tragedy of World War II costing tens of millions of civilian life. That is why every body needs to fight such an infectious evil act and bring the hate mongers to Justice before they infect the mass .This is also a litmus test to The current Ethiopian Government whether it is in control of the country and has the will and courage to take action and discharge its constitutional trust and responsibility and maintains peace, order and rule of law. Whether it is the plot of the oppositions for short cut to power or the plot of the government to divide and rule; or reckless and devil act of self lead few or others with special interest it is first and foremost the duty of the government to take action and maintain the peace and integrity of our society . I believe this is what all the peace loving Muslims, Christians and non religious citizens want to see.

    Let’s show our loyalty to our religion by upholding the true values and teachings of religions: brotherhood, peace, love and care instead of following evil wishes- and hate!

  9. ed said,

    on February 1st, 2009 at 4:49 am

    keep up with good work negashi. ethiopia is 4 muslim 2 mr barihun pls……… islam =peace good day make dua 2 all muslim & others. where is makka i think that is in sauid not in ethiopia we are ethiopian axum is in ethiopia as a citizen we build mosiq all over ethiopia we are not opening bar or club we open praying pls.

  10. Elias said,

    on February 1st, 2009 at 7:08 am

    Aselamu Wealykum

    I am ashamed of those who are irresponsible citizens who preach Ethiopiansm. When they attack weyane they have no basis but when the Muslims rights and dignity transgressed they just kept quite and continue preaching unity and peace. All the opposition groups are fun to this hate propaganda than TPLF. However, we have witnessed the ambition of the church and the failed government who sits there and watched the terrorist from their church verandas.

    Nor TPLF or Oppositions are in favor of mutual understanding or equal right among religions. Most of the opposition parties began their political discourse with the blessing of church priests and monks. The flag which contain their cross, celebrating what the past fanatics destruction as history…. are these concerned Ethiopians for peace and understanding? I think Muslims are wasting our time opening up discussion with those irresponsible bodies we should rather strength our unity and create to mach their power of balance.

  11. Concern Citizen #2 said,

    on February 1st, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    The gentleman ‘Concern Citizen’ above said it well…

    “This is also a litmus test to the current Ethiopian Government whether it is in control of the country and has the will and courage to take action and discharge its constitutional trust and responsibility and maintains peace, order and rule of law.”

    If this government fails to act decisively, the hate mongers who are being used by radical groups may succeed to disenfranchise Ethiopian Muslims. Just as the slave who tasted freedom cannot be slaved again, the Ethiopian Muslim who has tested equality, freedom and justice will never go back to being a second class citizen in a country where his ancestors lived since the beginning of time.

    African Americans achieved to reach to the highest government position in about 200 years, but god forbid if Muslim children dare to dream of becoming a president of Ethiopia one day. It does not matter whether their ancestors lived in the country for 5000 years, it would be considered blasphemy for them to think in such a way.

    We all need to wake up and protect our beloved nation from this evil.

  12. ahmed ali said,

    on February 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    I shame on tplf regium, this the time to be fail. All muslium be a ware on what going on the ethiopian church but if they know islam means it is peace what happen to them. even if we have the difference we have good friend and relative, which they have nice manner islam is respect all human kind. Please take care

  13. mohammed A. said,

    on February 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    A.w.weberkatuh. i saw the clip .we know from day one that these kafirs hate us. the quran and the sunnah of the prophet (peace be up on him) may my dad’s ,mom’s and my soul be ransom to him have already made it clear. we also cannot get the victory except if we stick to our religion. Remember what happened at the time BADR ,the muslims were out numbered , but victory were for them. because all ALLAH (s.w) want from us is , to be proud of our deen, do good deeds,stay away from evil or haram deeds, stick to the rob of ALLAH and donot let others divide us because what we are facing right now is “an all out war ” on muslims.
    ALLAH knows best

  14. Siron said,

    on February 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Dear web host,

    I want to comment on the clip posted above regarding the so-called Priest Barihun who was speaking on January 20, at Timiket. I assure you with honesty that this man is known for his disgusting speech, don’t call it preaching, by everyone who goes to church or walk by that road. He is known for ridiculing every one including the Patriarch, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, The Muslim, The Protestant and others. If you look closely he is outside of the St Gorge Church because he is not allowed to go inside. I am telling you he is not a part of the church but a person who is collecting money after speaking his rubbish words.

    To proof this I insist anyone to go to the place and you can find him in every Sunday, outside of the church, blaming and complaining about everything. I came to know this because I am living around Semen Hotel, a kilometre away from the place where he was speaking. Me and my friend always see him when we get our shoes polished by shoe-shiners.

    So, I am writing this for the Muslim brothers not to take his words as the reflection of the church. I am writing this for the sake of my Christian best friend with whom i spent every Christian holiday with him and so he does with every Muslim Holiday.

    The person who sent you this clip may not know the so called priest. But this hate monger priest has a nick name-Terunba-meaning trumpet!!!

  15. negashi said,

    on February 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 am

    Dear SIRON,
    Thank you very much for your input about the identity of the hate mongerer. However the fact remains that he is allowed to spread his hatred and provoc Ethiopians to kill each other. He is also not alone in having that position. We are being told day in day out by various priests that indeed “their Ethiopia is for them alone and their religion is the only God given thus abolish all others. No less an ex-director of the Orthodox Church was telling the world last night his being so happy with those guys who courageously wore that t-shirt, posted posters with the same message and reclaim back thier historic and god-given unique Ethiopiawinet - i.e bemetemeq. Many applaud to his articulative assertion that lend clear support to fanatics.Worse, given status of the person in orthodox Church and the forum he was invited to speak oblige us not to let their words go.

    Dear Siron, Bahitawi Birhanu, it is not his personality that really matters. If we go beyond that and consider the content of his speech, the circumstances that urged him to speak, the way it is articulated, … all of them fits to a pattern that fanatics, religious and political, has been desplaying lately. That is the fact I wanted to stress on.

    The fanatics would like to stay behind curtain and use the like of Bahitawi Birhanu to get their message out and come back to justify it saying that the person is this or that. But when a Muslim does any undesired act, they are merciless to generalise the Muslims. You can see them on the person who is reported to have said “Takbir” in a church compound. You can also see this from Jimma incident.

    Muslims are in no terms to give excuss for such acts. The one who entered a church compound and started to say a prayer can not have any justification for his acts acts. Those who killed innocent Ethiopians just because they follow another belief are similarly transgressors. No Muslim I know tried to justify these acts. Every one rejected them.

    Similarly the execuse being given for bahitawi Birhanu are non-sense. He said what many believe in and set to realise. That is the message we may extract and strive to abort their evil aspiration as it has nothing good for our people and country. Other wise who said what would not be our subject for discourse.

    Thank you once again for your contribution and hope you would continue taking part in the discussion be it on this subject or any other.

    Negashi OJ

  16. Wongel said,

    on February 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Dear administrator if you are true person you have to allow me to post this comment.

    Please don’t be fanatic. You have to finish all the sibket otherwise you will not understand what they want to say. Our church never declare war and she is preaching peace for all world. However we are ready to tell you that you are worshipping false God. Your Quran is false and is not from God. I have very real reason for this. If you can we can contact face to face.

    But as country we have to live in peace as our for fathers did. We absolutely respect your religion and people whatever is your belief. Bible told us to be in peace with people even if the worship stone.

    My friends don’t forget that muslims are entering to the chuch by saying “alluha kiber”. Why are you saying this? Are you to change the chuch to mosque or what are you planning. We believe in love who is Jesus Christ. We never hate you or kill you in any case.

  17. alhade said,

    on February 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    i was shoked when i watched this vido i wish i kill that old man he dost’n got clue what he is talkin about. there is no muslim when he said that shame on you all muslim if i was there i’ll kill him he spoil our religen disrespect man. i was surprised in the vidio i saw 2 police men stand and didnt say nothing.i think all muslim we need 2 wake up think about it what is going on.

  18. abesheet said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 2:17 am

    Wongel, I know the above comment wasn’t directed to me. But i thought i might share my thoughts on it.

    First of all, both you and Negashi know that neither of you can prove the existence of your respective gods. Sorry to break it to you, sister, but your religion is no more true or false than his. EYE know that for sure :). But faith, i’ve been told, is the ability to see what isn’t there. [Which maybe why i’m an Agnostic]. So how about dropping the “real reason” part of your comment and sticking to what you can do best? Pray.

    If you have read on the term “respect”, it doesn’t mean “being patient” or “holding with esteem”. It means keeping away even when you feel the person you are respecting is wrong. Coming here, and asking to meet up with Negashi, to “convince” him the way he chose to walk on is wrong is disrespectful. I know what your bible says about “sharing the word” “begizewum yale gizewum”. But it also talks about being wise when going about it. Your hope to one day convert and baptise any of the Muslim brother and sisters on this blog, inspite of giving you an “asazagn” “yewah sew” getsita, is down right dumb. He has chosen his road, sister, deal with it! If you can’t, keeping away would help you do your god’s work better than coming here and making matters worse.

    Negashi:
    Forgive wongel. For The Prophet has said, hasn’t he, “Whoever is not merciful to others will not be treated mercifully”.

  19. meron said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 7:29 am

    Dear Moderator,
    In my opinion you were supposed to check the authenticity of the so-called preacher, before you post it in your website. As such stupid ‘preaches’ can boil the blood of your compatriots.

    But i can see what you are also fond of and have as a mission, on how you respond to SIRON’s information about that shit. Which make me believe that you are in the same bloc like the ‘tirunba’ and the dude who yells your alla-bako in side a church.

    It’s expected to see left-overs to try what ever possible to snatch power which they are deprived off by the weyanes.
    [the EPRP PR is worth mentioning here]

    But i have a call to all Ethiopians [be it christian/muslim or what ever ] we need our country and its people get out of poverty, live in peace and love. We got to evaluate our position and dare to call a spade a spade.

    To the christians, i want to ask them to re-read what Christ tought us, which is to give endless and boundry-less and race-free love to all human kind on the planet let alone to our immediate brotherns and sisters in our homeland.

    Yes we are told to preach Jesus’ true sonnes of God once twice but we are told to leave them alone then after as it will be God’s turn to work in them upon His will.
    Christianish is source of true love which preaches 100% restraint by calling to turn another cheek after a slap and to run off any kind of troubles and provocation.

    So Ethiopians, pleace come toi your sense and comply to what your scripture says instead of trying to play with fire and be an stupid instrument for failed-politiacians and distressed politics of our poor country.

    God bless ya all,

  20. Babussu said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 7:42 am

    Look wongel, we do not mind if you say Muslims believe in a false God or the holy Quran is not a revelation from God. You are what you are because you do not believe in what Muslims believed. Or else you would have been a Muslim. It is the same for us; we believe you Christian are disbelievers. You are worshipers of a man (Jesus the son of Mary, messenger of God) and you shall be rejected by the one that you worshiped (Jesus Christ, messenger of God) on the Day of Judgment. However we do not insult anything that the Christians hold holy. And we expect you Christians to show similar respect to what we Muslims hold holy. That is all!

  21. Salam-le-hulu said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 9:57 am

    Asselamu Alaykum Dear Brothers and Sisters,

    First:- Wongel, have you seen what you said? It is conflicting each other as does the Bible! you are saying that “…your religion(Islam) is false(by which you are insulting like Priest berihun)…” then “…we respect your religion(Islam)…”. We are not that much fool like you and your likes to be deceived by you. You can go and play anywhere not here!

    Second:- Concerned Citizen #2, what a great thinker you are! “…African Americans achieved to reach to the highest government position in about 200 years, but god forbid if Muslim children dare to dream of becoming a president of Ethiopia one day. It does not matter whether their ancestors lived in the country for 5000 years, it would be considered blasphemy for them to think in such a way…”
    But have you forgot that the first Ethiopian leader to unite Abbyssinia (Late Ethiopia) was Imam Ahmed Ibn Ibrahim Alghazi(The muslim hero) although he didn’t massacre the civil Christians as Tewodros, Yohannes and Menelik did on the Muslims! What about King Nejashi? He was the first Muslim king for Ethiopia. Please our brother Christians, don’t be hatred mongerers; Muslims were and can be leaders and Presidents. And I believe that chance should be given for Muslim presidents since we haven’t seen from the Christian leaders except leading the country to hatred, poverty, division and destruction. Don’t forget that when the Christian leaders were debating on “how to minimize the number of Muslims” in the country for the last 50 years, the western world was and is debating on “Develop your country or Die!”.
    My peace loving and moderate Christians also agree with me 100%!
    PEACE AND PROSPERITY FOR ETHIOPIA!


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  23. gha said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    ay wongel, you live in a fantasy world. The reality we are witnessing is islam is rapidly growing across a globe. Despite an all out attack on Ethiopian muslims we are witnessing more devout muslims practicing their relegion better than previous times. Why are you guys are afraid of Ethiopian muslims? Why are you trying to wake up a sleepin giant? Wongel you are also lying when you say that muslims are coming to your church by saying allahu akber. Again tthe reality on the ground is the opposite.I can envision your reaction when we establish our own university,our own banking system and our own private schools for our Children. Believe me this is going to happen pretty soon.

  24. abdurahman mohammed said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    This priest is insane, arrogant and crook. He has no ethics or knowledge about Christians and Muslims religion at all. He just talks bullshit without evidence and quoting reference to the Quran or Bible. Shame on Orthodox religion to assign him as a priest . He just provoke hater and lie against Muslims. It is an acceptable .The GOVT should put him behind the bar for inciting hatred against one another and manslaughter in Ethiopia.

  25. Freedom said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    To All Christains as well as Muslims

    We have to differentiate between INSULT and PREACH.
    When we muslims complain we need to HIGH LIGHT on the freedom to preach.

    We don’ t need to lose fundamental human right due to outbrust of one here and there. There would be some one who have lost respect, and esteem who is degraded enough to use his his tongue against his creator who gave it to him.

    Christians and muslims have and should have the right to preach their believe freely. In no way, we should bring this right into question. Any person has and should have the right to compare his religion with what he believes if he /she wants to.

    Muslims are complaining not because the preacher talked about Islam, but because he used some words which let alone for a respected religion, any decent person would never use against another person.

    The other myth of christian islandists, of `Isam agaru mekkah`- dream. It is wrong to claim and accuse of all christian Ethiopians of such utopean dream.

    I don’t think that its the posters of, and T-shirts of the christian islandists to be the real concerns of the muslims. At some time in the past, this dream was a reality that muslim Ethiopians lived , with many other oppressed nations. They know how bitter it is to live under `christain island`.

    Well, you tell tell me that -we were eating togatehr, I have freinds…….Yes we did and that would continue. We are not talking about neighborhood or personal life style it is about governance and there is no way that my christian neigbourhood or freind should bear the responsibilty of what the rulers do or did. Even often christians happen/ed to be victim and only a handfull benefit out of this. Therefore, it is important that both muslims and christian take care of diverting the issue from governance to individual,

    So, when muslims express their concern they shoudl make clear that and discuss how we should live in this 21 st century. Above, this dream is not something that can be materalized through simple posters and T-shirts. yes, they may keep it alive but not materialize it.

    What we need to focus and work on,along with other concerned Ethiopians is how to make sure how to prevent the country from rolling back to the dark era of the disgusting inequlity, and oppression. We need to participate in making Ethiopia a free democratic country where the rights of all citizens are equally repected. So, we need to focus not on the T-shrts but on the structures .

    Peace to you all, and may Allah cover our country with His mercy .

  26. Subhana'Allah said,

    on February 4th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    The stupidest thing I ever seen in my life. It shows that how this guy is far from knolageble. he does’t even know anything about muslim.He should read Quran first before he talks whatever came to his mouth.How could he even insult Prophet Mohamed(SAW). I don’t even think he knows about his what he calls his Bible.Next time when you think talking about it have respect. We muslim has to do something about it.!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. abesheet said,

    on February 5th, 2009 at 5:00 am

    This priest is insane, arrogant and crook. He has no ethics or knowledge about Christians and Muslims religion at all.

    I agree abdurahman. Like i said once before, stupidity knew no bounds. Giving ear to such idiocy and saying “this is what christians are like” is like saying Osama and/or Taliban represents all muslims. We know better! We know that: Ethiopians would be Ethiopians regardless of their religion. [Or race. Inspite of all the attempts made to made us kill eachother on that front, too]. That an Ethiopian Christian and an Ethiopian Muslim is that man who grabs your hand so you don’t miss the bus or leaves his chair for your sister so she doesn’t soil her dress by sitting on the “woyala’s chair”. That nothing has changed, except the interests and power of those around us. And that this day.. this post-September 11 traumatic stress .. this fever .. this new threat fueled by those who do not like us [be it a Jew or an Arab state] making us view eachother warily .. shall pass. If we allowed it too.

  28. Alif said,

    on February 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Dear Negashi,

    Thanks for the posting. To be aware what is going around is better than not knowing.

    However my concern is your explanation to Siron invited Meron’s comment due to not paying attention to what Siron narrated (might not be the case but reflective). As known there are religious bias everywhere due to many factors. No one is immune at this time of age. Emotions should not replace thoughtful and wise actions.

    I feel Siron’s comment should be with the video clips on the top to be more informative rather than necessitating your explanation. I hope you will take it in good intention.

    Thanks

  29. negashi said,

    on February 6th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    Alif,
    Selam
    Your comment is well taken, tks.

  30. Alif said,

    on February 6th, 2009 at 3:55 am

    Dear brother Negashi,

    Many thanks for your fair moderation.
    Best regards for all particpants.

  31. arayaselassie said,

    on February 6th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    I just heard about this. I am Orthodox Christian and, regardless of his mental state, the “priest” should not be allowed to spew such hate so openly to so many and get away with it. What he is wearing and the fact that he seems to be speaking inside - or at least very close to - a church give him the kind of authority that can lead Christians, and Muslims, to assume that he is speaking on behalf of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. And I hope the church makes it clear to all of us that he is not.

    Ethiopians don’t have much to brag about, but I am proud that almost eighty million of the poorest people on earth, almost evenly divided (maybe not) between Muslims and Christians, continue to live in relative peace and harmony despite people like the “priest” in the clip. I hope we don’t let people like him, those full of hate and not much between the ears, to plunge us into religious discord. We all must find a way to sideline the fanatics among us, and who will never go away.

  32. Freedom said,

    on February 7th, 2009 at 5:34 am

    araya

    “….can lead Christians, and Muslims, to assume that he is speaking on behalf of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. And I hope the church makes it clear to all of us that he is not.”

    Hope so, but we lack that one so far. And this has led to assume that the church is beside hin.

  33. Gragne Aba-Qentes said,

    on February 7th, 2009 at 6:59 am

    As-Sala’amAlykum Wr-RahmethuAllahi WaBerkatu to my brothers and sisters in Islam!

    …………and to those who are not muslims but have human decency I say
    :May peace be upon anyone who follows guidance!……….and finally to those infidals who have chosen to wage war againist the muslims and Islamic religion in Ethiopia I say:
    “Thank You!” for “helping” our youth to engage in the preparation and excution of the forgotten obligation of Jehad.
    When Jehad is realized in Ethiopia………….. Allah Willing! then and only then the filthy infidals such as this priest and the likes would start to behave normal.

  34. Abdumalik Omar said,

    on February 7th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    I believe the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Ethiopian government is treading on a dangerous path. Both of them can not feign ignorance to what is going on right under their nose. This guy is preaching hatred against Muslims right outside of some church. And the government is pleading ignorance and letting the church wage a senseless crusade against more than half the population. If the church and the government are under the impression that they are following the right course of action, I believe both of them are going to loose big time in what may follow.

    The government has gained a lot of experience by rigging elections and census data. Some sources are saying that the recent census showed that sixty five percent of the population is followers of Islam. It is speculated that it is this reason why it took the government more than two years after the completion of the census to come up with some ridiculous numbers against the Muslims. Both the church and the government figured out that this is not going to do the trick against the Muslims and in their infinite wisdom, they have declared a war against Muslims to disenfranchise and demoralize them in hopes of subjugating them as they have been used to in times past.

    We are being told the action of this loony “priest” is an isolated incident and does not reflect the sentiment of the larger Christian population. The majority of Ethiopian Christians might not accept what the guy is preaching, but let me remind you that every movement starts small initially and spreads wide if left unchecked. The Nazi and Fascist movement was a very marginal and fringe group at its inception. It ended up for the loss of more than fifty million lives and the destruction of so many countries. And our country was not spared the scourge of that movement. This lunatic priest is not preaching alone, he has a crowd of followers who are echoing and supporting his venomous attack against innocent Muslims and their faith. And the troubling question is where are the government and the church when everything is happening under their very eyes?

    During the early years of the present government, many Christians were attacked in some Oromia regions because of the prevailing political climate that developed which pitted one ethnic group against another. Large number of non-Oromos who have lived in that region totally abandoned the area for good. For anyone who has a slight knowledge of population distribution in the country, the present course of action by some fanatic Christians does not bode well for their cause. If what we are witnessing is left unchecked, the nation will surely be divided along religious and ethnic lines which are the opposite of the outcome some chauvinist fanatics are looking four. The Ethiopian Muslims are under a constant threat both from the church and the government when it comes to the question of their Allah given rights. But some in the Ethiopian church (Mahbre Kudusan) think that Muslims are getting away with much more than they are entitled. And we Muslims are challenging the system to get our rightful place in the affairs of the nation.
    If this disagreement is not resolved properly, I am afraid the light we are seeing at the other end of the tunnel is nothing but a freight train.

    We Muslims have been repeatedly told by our Christian brothers and sisters that we have lived as good neighbors with mutual respect and understanding. Although the sentiment has some merit, much of the understanding and respect came from the Muslims. I am sure the Muslim of Bosina were told by their Serbian neighbors stories along the same lines until that fateful event for the Muslims arrived and paid dearly with their lives. Times have changed for us Muslim Ethiopians and we are no more content with the status-quo. Following the dictates of the constitution, we are demanding our equal rights and our rightful place in the nation as equal with all others; and for that we are confronted with obstacles and intrigue from different corners. It is the duty of the government to safeguard and protect the right of every citizen and it is the responsibility of every citizen to respect others and not infringe on that right and make a mockery of each other beliefs.

    The government has a burden of protecting its citizens from malicious and hateful elements in the population and the church should be responsible for elements that are speaking on its behalf. I hope I am wrong but it is my feeling that the government is not paying much attention and the church is tacitly approving what is being done judging from its past activities. I am praying that decent elements from the government and the church will prevail in the matter to spare our people another episode of calamity that is waiting to fall.

    Abdumalik Omar


  35. on February 7th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Assalamu aleykum werahmetullah webrakatuh to all my muslim brothers and sisters
    …..we as a muslim have to do some thing to this dude coz he is takling shit……. dont know nothing what he is talking about subhanallah!


  36. on February 7th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    …muslim where are we? …this is a moment to every thing…. cleaning every little DEVL and DEVILNESSES from the islam world, before it will spread…. so lets handle the yahud with the help from ALLAH inshallah!!!!

    TEKBIR-ALLAHU ——AKUBER!!!


  37. on February 8th, 2009 at 7:22 am

    […] do you call it if not a “declaration for an all out war”? - UPDATED!Abdumalik Omar on How do you call it if not a “declaration for an all out war”? - UPDATED!Gragne Aba-Qentes on How do you call it if not a “declaration for an all out war”? - […]

  38. arayaselassie said,

    on February 8th, 2009 at 8:33 am

    What if I go to a mosque tomorrow and do something that is offensive to Muslims? Should it be considered the work of a criminal or a madman who happens to be Christian, or should it be considered an attack on tens of millions of Muslims by tens of millions of Christians? If a Muslims does the same, should Christians feel as if they are being attacked by the entire Muslim community?

    We must put things in context. There is so much at stake and we cannot afford to be carried away. We are not sheep. We should not follow our leaders blindly. If they don’t act responsibly, then we shouldn’t allow them to divide us. There is a reality on the ground which instead should influence our leaders. That reality is that, despite a long and often tragic history, people continue to live together in relative peace and harmony, and that shouldn’t change because some people want to plunge us into a senseless religious war.

    I have Muslim cousins on both sides of my family. Imagine if I begine to think of them as enemies who wish my destruction just because someone tells me I should. And imagine if they change their views of me because of some abstraction which has very little basis in our reality.

    Ethiopian Christians are not Serbians and Ethiopian Muslims are not Bosniaks. We are not Hindus and you are not Kashmiris. We are not Europeans and you are not Arabs. We are all Amhara, Oromo, Tigre, Gurage etc who also happen to be Muslim and Christian.

    If Christians lose big time, Muslims lose. And if Muslims lose big time, then Christians lose. There is no “them” and “us.” We are all in this together.

    We should not approach this as the end, but as a wake up call, as an opportunity to appreciate what we have taken for granted for so long. Remember the expression “You don’t know what you’ve got until you lose it.”

    Ultimately, it is people who have very little who will end up suffering.

  39. Gragne Aba-Qentes said,

    on February 8th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    “Remember the expression “You don’t know what you’ve got until you lose it.”……….

    It is not worth keeping let us lose it, Period!

  40. abesheet said,

    on February 9th, 2009 at 1:29 am

    I’m sorry to be saying this but it’s about time somebody does.

    Some of the commentors on this blog, including the blogger - Negashi OJ, seem more interested in seeing what’s wrong than what’s right or could be made right. Thus, they deny/discredit/jeer at those Muslim and Chrsitian commentors who seem interested in discussing peaceful co-existence. The comments, accordingly, sound like a threat.

    Now I know Ethiopian muslims are no longer the once marginalized part of society. Which is a good news as long as the empowerement isn’t seen as a weapon for getting even with, forcing one’s belief on and destoying those who view the world differently to us.

    If so… maybe we haven’t figured this out yet. Or maybe we do and don’t see the consequence. Or we don’t care. Or feel some kind of reward awaits us at the end of the tunnel. [For it’s going to be a tunnel, a pitch black tunnel for both you/me and our kids]. But if something broke lose, answering some of our fervent prayers [it seems], Ethiopian Christians just like Ethiopian Muslims, are stubborn people :). They’d rather die than let others have their ways with them. So how about acting like responsible citizens for a change, Huh?! How about putting the threatening tone aside and doing the little we can to help make matters better and not worse?!

  41. abdudayan ahmed said,

    on February 9th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    asalamu aleykum
    this very sad story and i want all ppl of ethiopian christian please don’t dig ur owen grave ,,, i love my nabi more than my mother and father sooo pls we have fought for so long and we dont wanna reapet it again ,,,

  42. Gizman said,

    on February 11th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Aselamu’alikum Wa Wa

    All I can say that it all about one illiterate person comment about Islam and about Ethiopian history, shame on him. He can preach over and over again to the people like him illiterate and ignorant that denies the truth. I will be happy to pay for him to get educated. Remember we have history to be proud of to remind and tell the whole world before and after Ahmed Gragn. Here is the truth sooner or later whether you like it or not one day the world will become Islam world. Stop trying to start fire over building a single Mosque in one small Ethiopian city. Just understand simple rule the Muslim residents live there has equal right to those christian as a human being and the right to do whatever they wish under the law and regulation of the country.

  43. Hamza said,

    on February 12th, 2009 at 6:30 am

    Gragne Aba-Qentes, are you an Eritrean or Somali?

  44. abesheet said,

    on February 12th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Well, Hamza, the “Qentis” part is only too clear. I can even understand why it’s associated with the name Gragne (”Gragne Mohammed”, one can only assume). What I’d like to know is who he’s hoping to “MeQentes”. I have a weird feeling he isn’t referring to the various-colored roses in his flower shop he hopes to sell in hundreds on St. Valentine’s Day :) .

    Melkam YeFiQregnoch Qen everyone!

  45. joe said,

    on February 13th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    This guy is fanatic,,,the sad thing is many Orthodox christians sympotise with him,,for many Orthodox christans
    religion, nationhood, culture, history and politics (KINIJIT lool) are one, like fanatic Juhadist, a very letal combination.
    Joe


  46. on February 13th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    I do not belive my ears those insurance splitra people must
    be brought to justice they lying to the People jus one ex he said on his took that in the great koran great muslims for not greets on christians.

  47. dani said,

    on February 15th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    I am muslim but we ll take it easy!
    Beliving is personal,so this person is giving his own personal view so he can say it.

  48. jimmacorner said,

    on February 19th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    hi Dani, good comment!
    How am i sure to be u r muslim? ignore it !

    i agree with ur idea, however this man is spreading the voice of the priests/churchs tought, b/c he did the preaching inside george church campus, so the administrator of church could stop this evil spreading man.

  49. Ahmed Giragne said,

    on March 1st, 2009 at 12:37 am

    I strongly belive that the fanatic orthodx ( the members of ” mahibere kudusan” and the fanatic Ethiopian christians aswell as politicians in America) christians know that they can not do what they intend to do. They also know if they try to do something bad how worest the reaction would be.

  50. Peace Lover said,

    on March 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Hello all,

    It amazes me to hear all of you giving your opinions on this issue. Some of you said ‘it is time for war’ and others try to calm you down. Well, it is different in our mind how we perceive these things, which might led us to a nonsense war that we do not want. I have read each and everyones comment. Negashi, well, you might feel that you are insulted. But that is one man’s (the ‘bahtawi’) opinion. I, being one of the Orthodox church follower, does not believe in what he says. That does not make me a Muslim hater. You know what i mean? If it is the “priest” that says it, then he is the only one that says it. Not the other Christians or the church leaders. Believe it or not, church leaders are teaching us not to listen to this kind of people who tend to call themselves as “Bahtawi” and initiate a sense of haterdness in our mind. Not only him, there are others that have said something like this. But, Once again, a one man’s opinion is a one man’s opinion. Not a country’s. We always love to generalize on stuffs without seeing the other part of them.

    I must say, let us all not get into this and create a melo-drama to disillusion our thoughts. Have your belief and pray! as evth will be possible if you pray hard and love people hard.

    Thank you!!

  51. STRING said,

    on March 6th, 2009 at 6:58 am

    DEAR ALL,

    I AM ORTHODOX TEWAHIDO BELIEVER. GOD IS GOOD AND NOTHING BAD IS UNTO HIM. IN MY OPENION, MOST OF THE FIRST TWO VIDOES ARE A MATTER OF REVEALING THE FACT DESPITE SOME EMOTIONAL ESCALATION. TO BE FRANK, THE THIRD VIDEO DOES NOT SEEM SYSTEMATIC.

    IN ANYCASE, WE MAY ARGUE ON RELIGIOUS MATTERS TAKING OUR POSITION BUT ANYTHING THAT RESULTS IN PHYSICAL ATTACK IS NOTHING BUT IGNORANCE!!!

    REGARDS
    STRING

  52. Somalisword said,

    on March 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Assalamu Aleykum Warraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuhu to all muslim brothjers and sisters and Peace be Upon Mohammad Sallaaahu Aleyhi Wassalam. The Zenawi army has invaded Somalia with the help of America and the christian world mainly Europe inorder to eradicte muslim religion in somalia. the Zenawi army has killed more than 20.000 muslims and destroyed two thirds of Mogadishu city.More than 70.000 were wounded .The weyanne army dessecrated the Mushaf Al Qur’aan they used as toilette paper ,they occupied 350 mosques , they used the mosques as toilettes.They killed women ,children and the elderly Allah has bunished them with the hands of the somali muslims who fought courageously and driven the evil armay back to where they come from, Theyhave done the same in Ethiopia like Ogaden Region and they will do the same Ethiopian muslims..all over the country.

  53. A. J Abdu said,

    on March 16th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    for all muslim B&S.Frist thing this person does not know what he is talking about he need to see amental DR.I am sory for those aoudiance who liten to this trash priest person He dig his future grave

  54. Ab-b said,

    on May 13th, 2009 at 8:52 am

    The answer to this base less ignorant priest and his followers is nothing but UNITY.
    I am sure, true believers and educated people of the Christians will no accept this lie. It is no bodies business who believes what. This priest is not talking about Hareries, Amharas Muslims, Tigre, Somali Muslims, Oromo Muslims, Wellamo Muslims or any other ethnic group. He is talking about all Muslim. Unity is the answer.


  55. on May 31st, 2009 at 11:09 am

    we are an Ethiopian and muslims not an areb if u say the muslims are areb i woold tell u the cristian are from israel 2

  56. reply said,

    on August 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    in the name of the FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT one God Amen

    I have came looked at the vidio and all the comments.There are some comments which are wise and matured,and some imature.We know the politics and every situation in Ethiopia.We also observe changes that are inevitable.What if we take the nuetral side and watch the vidio.Then we finally will end up with,in my openion,the causes of the preach.Then we can look at the consiquenses.
    Why is Islam always related to evils? How about the words in the quran?Why did we(christians and muslims) keep our relations smooth?
    who did the translation of the preachs of the Muslim doctor?
    What did the gov’t did on its distribution?
    Why that masacar happened in Jimma,Kemissie,ect?

    by the way I believe prophet MOHAMMED himself is a CHRISTIAN.

    Reasons:
    1.He believed that christians would give protection for his fellows that he sent them to christians.By this, He believed christians
    2.Instead of waging war on Ethiopian christians to expand Islam,He put his words that Hijad should not be made on Ethiopia,which is against the taughts of Islam.

    ?? ????? ??? ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ?????? ?…“ 1? ?? 112-13

  57. reply said,

    on August 5th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    sorry for the spelling errors.I was in a rush.Also It would have been good if you also post the vidio from the doctor’s preaches mentioned on the vidio.

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